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03-15-2013, 10:09 AM
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ST or LT tires on 2005 Montana 2980RL
Hello, I am going to need to put tires on the 2005 Montana 2980RL 5th wheel. We purchased it as a used 5th wheel in 2010. So the tires have been on there since we purchased it. It has on it right now LT 235/85R16E including the spare (looks to be original-sticker still on tread). One of the tires had to replaced due to a leaking problem (bubble in tread area). I wrote to Keystone for advice, they just mentioned the tire size but not whether to install ST or LT tires. Which type do you recommend. We had a little tow trailer and it had ST tires on it. I would think that ST would be a better choice because of the "stiffer" sidewall. I want to call ahead to the tire store to insure they will have the type of tires before we have them replaced.
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03-15-2013, 05:32 PM
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If it was my TT, and it came with LT's, I'd replace them with LT's.
Again if it was mine they would be non-Chinese tires, with a DOT code no older than 6 months, and balanced with metal valve stems.
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03-15-2013, 05:50 PM
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ST or LT tires on 2005 Montana 2980RL
It came with the LT's when bought it used, so I have no idea if it came with the ST's or LT's originally. Like I mentioned, Keystone was vague on its recommendation. It looks like I will need to talk to a tire place or RV repair facility like Camping World to get the proper information. Thanks for your input much appreciated.
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03-15-2013, 06:20 PM
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I wish I had pictures of mine to double-check, but the sticker at the front corner of my trailer has my tire info. I thought it even listed the standard tires and their recommended pressures.
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03-15-2013, 08:21 PM
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Look on the left forward exterior portion of the trailer for the certification label. It may also be found on the LH side of the hitch pin housing.
Keystone quit using LRE Light Truck tires on 6000# axles in model year 2006. So I’m pretty sure yours came equipped with LT235/85R16E tires. I also think most posters will advise you to stick with the LT tires.
CW
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04-14-2013, 11:42 AM
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LT tires on my '09
Just replaced the tires on my '09 347 THT, with BF Goodrich Commercial LT 235/85 R 16, E rated. The original Goodyear Marathons ST 235/80 R 16 were still on it- they looked good, but had manufacture dates in mid 2007. Didn't want to take a chance, leaving on a 1000 mile trip this week. I don't expect any problems out of the BF Goodrich's. I keep them inflated properly and keep my highway speeds under 65 mph.
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04-14-2013, 01:26 PM
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The LT's like to spin faster and not fly apart at high speeds, but they don't drag sideways while turning as good as the ST's. Keep an eye on your suspension with the LT's.
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04-14-2013, 01:36 PM
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04-14-2013, 01:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoSRT10
The LT's like to spin faster and not fly apart at high speeds, but they don't drag sideways while turning as good as the ST's. Keep an eye on your suspension with the LT's.
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I just installed my first set of LTs on the new fiver. I have read that on sharp maneuvering turns, there is the potential to break the tire bead or stress the axles. Should I be concerned? Is tight turning on dry pavement the stressor? I just wanted tires I didn't have to worry about. Did I do the right thing? They are Firestone Transforce HT's.
Steve
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04-14-2013, 04:25 PM
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As long as the tires meet the load rating for the axle, I would not stress about it. In general I think tires with a closed shoulder design such as ribs are better on trailers, but it is not mandatory.
Keep the pressure correct and watch for unusual wear and you should be fine.
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04-16-2013, 03:49 PM
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We just upgraded to 17.5" rims and Goodyear G114 tires. Steel belted and rated for trailer use only.
We had the G614 tire but wanted more safety margin.
We are on our first trip with them and they did great.
I still can't believe they put e rated tires on a Monty.
Do lots of research on this forum and try the MOC forum as well.
Safe travels!
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04-16-2013, 04:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigsky3625
We just upgraded to 17.5" rims and Goodyear G114 tires. Steel belted and rated for trailer use only.
We had the G614 tire but wanted more safety margin.
We are on our first trip with them and they did great.
I still can't believe they put e rated tires on a Monty.
Do lots of research on this forum and try the MOC forum as well.
Safe travels!
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Looks like the 17.5" wheels and GY114 tires is the best option out there now. I see too many posts of the GY614 failing on the heaver rigs.
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04-16-2013, 06:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IdahoSRT10
Looks like the 17.5" wheels and GY114 tires is the best option out there now. I see too many posts of the GY614 failing on the heaver rigs.
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Agreed. Glad we did it. We also use a tpms from tst. Yet another piece of safety.
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05-05-2013, 06:28 AM
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I would go lt. I recently switched from st to lt in the same load range and the lts are way stiffer. I read a lot online and found a comparison of the dot testing on another forum. St don't require as much testing and are intended for occasional non passenger use. If you intend to travel long distances, in hot weather, and near or above the st 65 mph speed limit I would get lt. St have 0 reserve capacity so the load capacity is higher. Lts typically have 20% reserve and are rated to a higher speed like 106 mph. I have heard some tire engineers say if you go for st you should get ones 15-20% overrated. Another thing is most st makers recommended life is 3-4 years while lt are 6-7 years. Don't get caught up in the marketing hype about special uv stuff in st...how many lt tires have you seen rot? Good luck.
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05-05-2013, 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by therink
I just installed my first set of LTs on the new fiver. I have read that on sharp maneuvering turns, there is the potential to break the tire bead or stress the axles. Should I be concerned? Is tight turning on dry pavement the stressor? I just wanted tires I didn't have to worry about. Did I do the right thing? They are Firestone Transforce HT's.
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I put LT's on mine in Dec. Bridgestone Duravis R250's and put 5k on them to Florida and back with several sharp turns and no problems. At the same time I put Transforce HT's on the TV and love them. Smooth and Quiet!
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05-05-2013, 07:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elkhorn98
I would go lt. I recently switched from st to lt in the same load range and the lts are way stiffer. I read a lot online and found a comparison of the dot testing on another forum. St don't require as much testing and are intended for occasional non passenger use. If you intend to travel long distances, in hot weather, and near or above the st 65 mph speed limit I would get lt. St have 0 reserve capacity so the load capacity is higher. Lts typically have 20% reserve and are rated to a higher speed like 106 mph. I have heard some tire engineers say if you go for st you should get ones 15-20% overrated. Another thing is most st makers recommended life is 3-4 years while lt are 6-7 years. Don't get caught up in the marketing hype about special uv stuff in st...how many lt tires have you seen rot? Good luck.
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The only acceptable load capacity for any highway tire is molded right into its sidewall.
CW
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05-06-2013, 04:47 AM
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Cw I totally agree. If you get lt tires sized correctly you should be fine...but a st tire running near its load capacity is a blow out waiting to happen. Imho.
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05-06-2013, 08:01 PM
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Upgrade to a higher load rating. Put 17.5" rims and GY G114's on our Big Sky. Overkill....maybe. Safe......oh yea! First trip out was great.
Running on the high end of the load rating to me is a problem waiting to happen.
Good luck and be safe.
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