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Old 01-24-2012, 03:28 PM   #1
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I am scratching my head! Hmmmm

I keep replacing my white city water hoses! I have been purchasing them from CW and they last maybe 2-3 weekend camping trips before they develop small pin holes.

I have tried different brands and the same thing happens, so I went to Walmart and purchased 2 Blue drinking hoses for the city water. It lasted about 3 camping trips and again in the middle of the camping trip a pin hole develops.

What in the world is causing all these hoses to go bad? Is it only I that is having this problem?
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:35 PM   #2
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Are you using a pressure regulator? If the campground pressure is greater than 40 psi, you should always use a regulator. Most experienced RVer's use the regulators 100% of the time.

I am using white hoses that are several years old and have never had, nor heard of the problem that you are describing.

I have utility garden hoses that have been left at full house pressure for very long periods, and not one of them has ever developed pin holes.

Frankly, if excess pressure is not an issue, and the hoses are failing after just a couple of weeks use, I can only think of one explanation.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:40 PM   #3
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I am not using a pressure regulator. Are you placing the regulator directly onto the campground water bib?
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:40 PM   #4
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maybe the way you are storing it??? you have a dog you take with??? i caught my collie under the trailer one hot day chewing on the hose. no damage tho.
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Old 01-24-2012, 03:44 PM   #5
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Leemedic -

Thought about rodents? I know - Gross! On the white hose? Rats and mice do like to chew on insulation (similar to water hose) for the salt that we humans leave on it while handling it. Are you always camping in the same locale? Is it dry where you camp? If it is, sprinkle some talcum powder around your hose at night and check for tracks the next morning.

Or rent a Maine Coon cat!

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Old 01-24-2012, 03:53 PM   #6
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Not camping at the same location. I am in florida, but also has happened in Georgia.

I just installed a regulator on the bib, but I don't think this is the problem. The holes are small, so maybe rodents. I need to get a steel hose I guess! LOL
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I am not using a pressure regulator. Are you placing the regulator directly onto the campground water bib?
The regulator needs to be on the spigot end of the hose, not the trailer. That way the hose and the trailer plumbing is protected.

I have never heard of rodents chewing up hoses, but I suppose it is possible. I'd be more leery of dogs or cats as their mouths are large enough to actually bite on a hose.
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Old 01-24-2012, 04:04 PM   #8
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If you do think it might be rodents, try getting some PVC large enough diameter to slip the hose through. Cut it in to one and two foot lengths, and add a handful of collars and a couple of street elbows. No glue! Just slip it all together like Tinker Toys and make your own "mouse guard".

Steve - You would be amazed at what rats and mice could do to the old one inch thick seismic acquisition cable! That cable had around 160 to 200 wire pairs in it (26 gauge). Sometimes it would take a couple of days to repair them! Hogs were the worst, though.

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Old 01-24-2012, 05:40 PM   #9
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It's pretty common during the dry season (floridah winters) to have rodents punch a couple holes in the hose for water. I've lost two hoses this year due to the critters and its never the kinked hose, alway the ones that lay nice and flat.
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It's pretty common during the dry season (floridah winters) to have rodents punch a couple holes in the hose for water. I've lost two hoses this year due to the critters and its never the kinked hose, alway the ones that lay nice and flat.
Well that just might be it. I am currently camping at Wekiwa Springs State Park in central Florida.
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the raccoons at Ft DeSoto campground in Florida did the exact thing to our water hose on two occassions.
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:21 PM   #12
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LeeMedic, Howdy;

Let me ask a question.
Are the pin-holes you mentioned right AT the hose ends, where
the ends are crimped on or sorta scattered along the length of the hoses ?

Reason for asking is this.
If the leaks are only at the crimps the cause is most likely to be due to over pressure or bad manufacturing.
Scattered along the length you may be feeding some hungry vermin.

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LeeMedic, Howdy;

Let me ask a question.
Are the pin-holes you mentioned right AT the hose ends, where
the ends are crimped on or sorta scattered along the length of the hoses ?

Reason for asking is this.
If the leaks are only at the crimps the cause is most likely to be due to over pressure or bad manufacturing.
Scattered along the length you may be feeding some hungry vermin.

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Hank, the small pin holes on the hose that is laying on the ground.
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Sounds like critters to me if it is random downward from the ends. On the regulator, it is a must. You never know what the pressure is at the CG. I connect mine on the TT and not the spigot. My reasoning for this is that on a hot sunny day the hose can build up a lot of pressure and I want to protect the water lines in the TT. If on the spigot, there is not protection from pressure build up in the hose. I would rather lose a water hose, than a water line. Theres always a WM somewhere. Jm2cw.

Good luck in what you find out. Let us know.

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I put my regulator on my trailer also rather protect it than my hoses, hoses are alot cheaper. Had a problem at work with rodents chewing on the insulation on the wires leading upto my tower lights. someone told me the insulation had salt in it and that is what they were after??????
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you put the regulator at the hose bib aren't you protecting everything from the water supply thru the hoses and the trailer too???
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you put the regulator at the hose bib aren't you protecting everything from the water supply thru the hoses and the trailer too???
You are correct, Joe. But one small issue remains and that is the possibility of the hose heating up in the sun and swelling up from the pressure. But, in theory, the pressure can't rise above whatever the regulator holds it to be. I don't consider it to be a problem.

I prefer to shut off the hose bib if I am going to be away for any length of time. And I try to route my hose so most of it is out of the sun. My regulator is always on the bib end.

I've yet to have any hose problems in 35+ years of RV'ing, at least due to pressure issues.
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By bib I'm assuming you mean the CG spigot. That only regulates the source of the water, not what is already in the hose. I have seen hoses swell due to being in the hot sun. If this happens there is NO protection from the hose into the trailer and the water lines within. By regulating the pressure at the trailer, be it a swollen hose do to sun or pressure from the CG water source, you are protecting any water lines in the trailer.

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Yoou would think that after living in Florida since 1979 I would have thought about hose warming up in the sun!!! We can learn so much from others.
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Howdy All;

I have a heat tape secured to my hose. It's covered with that pool noodle type of foam insulation. When the temp is above 50 something it goes to sleep untill temps below 40 something wake it up. When i turn on the cold water I have to wait till all the warm water flows before i can fill a glass with cold water.
Zero pressure issues.
During the summers I don't have the heat tape pluged in. Although I do leave it attached. I have had zero pressure issues. Temps do get above 100 in Cent. Utah. I have more pressurizzation issues with the Hot water heater.
Then I know it's time to "trim a little off the top". Then zero problems...

I hate to buy things over and over again. I keep my press. reg. at the spigot/bib/faucet ...whatever. I did blow-out a hose by putting the reg. at the trailer end of the hose...

my 2 pence worth....

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