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Old 04-27-2011, 10:40 AM
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Is there anywhere to get the schematics for Keystone campers. Ideally for a 2011 Laredo 303TG. Looking to see the layout of the wires and plubming.
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Old 04-27-2011, 11:29 AM
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There have been a number of members who have asked this same question that you have. I am not sure if any of them have had any success obtaining schematics from Keystone. Unfortunately, it seems that it isn't easy to get your hands on any wiring/plumbing diagrams for any Keystone product.
If you are successful in your search, we would all be interested in finding out where we can get them. Good luck.
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Old 04-27-2011, 01:06 PM
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I think you will find that there are no specific plumbing plans or electrical schematics available. From pictures I've seen of various RV's on this website (and on others) even the same models don't appear to be plumbed/wired the same way. If those pictures are any indication of how RV's are wired, no schematic or plan would be beneficial.

As with house wiring, there's a "general" objective and no two are wired the same, however basically, they meet the same objective.
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:54 AM
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I have to agree. It probably depends on which crew is doing the wiring/plumbing on the day yours was built. Too bad they didn't take a bunch of digital photos before the skin went on.

Idid that many years ago when I built a house. It saved me a ton of heartburn later on.

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Old 09-09-2011, 07:06 AM
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I have a 07 Montana 3400RL and have been trying to find structural drawings to know where tanks, plumbing and valves are. Both of my valves leak which is a hassle. I put a bandaid on it with another valve at discharge hookup.

Has anyone ever went to a dealer and asked for copies of structural or electrical schematics?

Thanks and look forward to some answers.
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Old 09-09-2011, 08:58 PM
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I think you're asking for something that's either nonexistant or so secretly guarded that nobody will even admit that it even exists. I've never seen a hardware layout, electrical schematic or plumbing diagram for any Keystone product.

Years ago, when I had an Airstream (they say it's the bestest you can buy) the owner's manual for it was the size of a family bible, but it didn't have any specific wiring diagrams, just a generalized explanation of what was included in the purchase price. Then, when we bought a Holdiay Rambler, we found that the owner's packet for it was pretty much a plastic bag with all the appliance information clumped together. There were some recipees for camping meals and suggestions on how to launder the curtains, but nothing any more substantial than that.

Good luck in your "quest" but me thinks you'll have the same information when you finish as what you have right now.....
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Years ago, when I had an Airstream (they say it's the bestest you can buy) the owner's manual for it was the size of a family bible, but it didn't have any specific wiring diagrams, just a generalized explanation of what was included in the purchase price. Then, when we bought a Holiday Rambler, we found that the owner's packet for it was pretty much a plastic bag with all the appliance information clumped together. There were some recipees for camping meals and suggestions on how to launder the curtains, but nothing any more substantial than that.
We owned a Sunline for 11+ years, and it was pretty much the same story. The manual was some generic RV care and maintenance info plus all the installed appliance manuals. When they were still in business, the Sunline factory was pretty responsive to requests for drawings, but the actual drawings were disappointing at best.

I am of the general opinion that if you want to find things in an RV, grab your power drill driver and a #2 square driver bit, and start opening things up.
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Old 09-10-2011, 06:00 AM
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I agree Steve. It can't be that complicated...just the hassle. Thanks for the reply.
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Old 09-10-2011, 11:20 AM
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You've hit the nail on the head, Steve. The only "sure fired way" to know where a tank sits is to eyeball it with your own eyes. Taking a part of the bottom off, looking and exploring, then putting it back and moving on down the line will give you pretty much the best overall picture of what's underneath. As for inside, if you remove a "known panel" say for the water pump, if you pay close attention to what's there, then remove the bathroom tub/shower access panels, you can pretty much tell what goes through the wall and under the step from one area to another.

As for as electrical goes, we all know where the converter is located, if you follow the "red wire" from behind the converter, through the floor, and then go under the trailer and eyeball that red wire, you can follow it pretty much to the next "blind spot" and sort of figure out what went where.

Funny thing about Keystone, when I installed my trailer hitch/wiring, I found out that keystone didn't use the industry standard yellow/green/brown/white wiring for the trailer connector. On my trailer, the wires are black, white red and blue. Now that took some "thinkin' and cussin' to get the lights working, but it really wasn't that bad, just frustrating that what should have been a "no brainer" turned into a makeshift ordeal because of wire colors that didn't follow code. It would have been nice to have a wiring schematic so I knew what color was what, but like everyone else, I know it ain't happenin, not with Keystone.
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1966 Apache Tent Camper
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1993 Ford F250 7.3L Diesel/34' Alumalite TT
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1994 33' Seabreeze Motorhome
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Old 09-13-2011, 10:49 AM
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SORRY TO SAY I DID SOME ELECTRICAL WORK ON MY 03 MONTANA 5TH WHEEL AND IT WAS LIKE A FERRARI WHEN THEY RAN OUT OF RED WIRE SPLICE IN A BLUE ONE AND KEEP GOING. YES THE OLD FERRARI'S WERE LIKE THAT! SO YOU NEDD A CONTINUITY TESTER TO CHECK WIRE RUNS. A P.I.T.A FOR SURE. AS FOR DIAGRAMS I DID ASK THE DEALER WHEN I PICKED UP MY NEW 2010 375FL. THE SERVICE MANAGER LAUGHED AND SAID IF YOU FIND THEM HE WOULD BUY THEM FROM ME ,SO I QUESS WE ARE ON OUR OWN.
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